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concert series presented by keurig. >> steve: email right now foxandfriends.com the first people hanging out in fox fan area. brian brian more gerri willis in the after the show show. >> bill: well done. good morning, everybody. fox news alert. two big stories out of washington today. the trump administration getting ready to enforce a travel ban on those six mainly muslim countries as key portions of the ban go in effect later tonight. meanwhile, the clock is running now on senate republicans to get a deal done on healthcare reform before they break for the 40 fourth of july. so you have got a 36-hour window now as we say good morning. split broadcast today i'm bill hemmer live in "america's newsroom" and shannon, good morning. how are you doing? >> shannon: i'm shannon bream. as for healthcare battle, republicans are going back to the drawing board for a compromise the goal to get to 50 votes. nine republican senators
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currently oppose the bill the way it stands now. for his part, president trump says is he optimistic republicans will come through. adding this: >> healthcare is working along very well. we could have a big surprise with a great healthcare package. >> shannon: john roberts is live at the white house for thus morning with more. good morning, john. >> good morning to you. good to see you in new york and you here in washington. the white house working very hard to try to cobble together a healthcare bill that could at least be looked at by all of the senate or at least republicans in the senate by tomorrow before they go on the break for the fourth of july and then maybe vote on it on the way back today. i'm told this is a very important day by a senior administration official. they are making some changes to the bill as well. to try to get enough support on board that this thing might pass during the month of july. some of those changes more funding to treat opioid addiction. that might bring on board shellie cap toe and rob portman of ohio.
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they wanted $45 billion over 10 years to treat opioid addiction. it's less than that but more money than they had originally been proposed. proposing changes for rules to health savings accounts to allow hha to pay for premiums that might bring people like senator ted cruz, mike lee and ron johnson on board. the white house also insisting it is not cutting medicaid. it is simply cutting the growth of medicaid. people here during the bush administration know how difficult it is to make that argument without it being called an actual cut. the toughest holdouts i'm told in the senate are senator rand paul of kentucky, senator susan collins of maine and dean heller of nevada. he is up for re-election in 2018 in a state that was handily won by hillary clinton. so we all know what his concerns are. there has been some talk of reaching across the aisle if they can't get enough republicans on board. the president stopped short yesterday of taking up senator chuck schumer's proposal to negotiate this deal with all 100 senators. listen here. >> i'm going to find out if he is serious. he hasn't been serious. obamacare is such a
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disaster, such a wreck. and he wants to try and save something that's really hurting a lot of people. it's hurting a lot of people. you would have to be very, very serious. he has done a lot of talking, bad talking. and he just doesn't seem like a serious person. >> senior administration official told me at this point they pretty much know what the contents of the healthcare bill will be in the senate. shannon, it's just a matter of whether or not they can get enough senators on board. the one that they think might be the most difficult is rand paul. they also think that heller is awfully difficult, too. again, because of the fact that he is up for re-election in that state that hillary clinton won in just a year and a little bit. he is going to be a cuff one. >> shannon: hear a lot of talk that they can only lose two and they have pretty much given up on rand paul. that means one more. meantime, they are getting things done on other fronts today. what's happening on immigration? >> first of all, the president's immigration ban, the partial immigration ban is allowed by the supreme court goes into effect tonight at 8:00 p.m.
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it will effect six countries. let's go over those for you again. it's syria, iran, sudan, somalia, libya, and yemen. what this does allowed by the supreme court, it allows a ban on people who have no previous ties to the united states. that is no family, no job here, not going to school here. people who already have visas, by the way, that were in the system will be allowed to come in. it's a 90 day ban on visas, 120 day ban on refugees. remains to be seen when it's implemented tonight whether it causes similar problems at ports of entry that happened back in the end of january. the president putting on a push for the house to pass two immigration bills today as he has done many times in the past. he met yesterday with victims of crime perpetrated by illegal immigrants. hoping to give a boost to bills to curtail funding to sanctuary cities, that's known as kate's law for kate steinle who was mercilessly gunned down in san francisco. and it would also impose
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tougher penalties on deported criminals who reenter the united states. this is a separate bill. the house is expected to pass that today. the senate expected to pass it when it returns from the fourth of july break. shannon? >> shannon: all right. thank you very much, john roberts. live at the white house. bill? >> bill: let's pick up where john left off there. president trump weighing in on two immigration bills saying congress must come through when he said this. >> we're calling on all members of congress to honor grieving american families by passing these life-saving measures in the house, in the senate, and then sending them to my desk for a rapid signature. i promise you it will be done quickly. >> bill: charlie editor of "the washington times" contributor here to talk about this. good morning, charlie. >> good morning, bill. >> bill: good looking jacket. it is the season. >> yes, it is. >> bill: break it into two. one sanctuary cities and the other known as kate's law. take the assassination area
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cities. -- sanctuary cities. >> both parties supported this in some places. you know, the federal government gives these federal grants to these places to enforce certain -- to pay for the enforcement of certain immigration laws and these places, these cities they just say to heck with it. we're going to -- we're not going to enforce these laws. we are going to have a sanctuary city. we are going to make the money. donald trump shrewdly at the beginning of the campaign this is how he launched his whole campaign, what he is saying here is okay if you are not going to enforce the laws, you're not going to get the law we are paying you to enforce those laws. it's one of those very simple things that somehow gets very complicated only here in washington. >> bill: only in washington. >> yes. >> bill: not in the rest of the country. >> no. >> bill: they are telling these cities, these are the laws. >> yeah. >> bill: pay attention to them. the head of ice said yesterday it appears in recent years that the decision to not comply has become easier and easier in
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america. you heard that and thought, what? >> yeah. and other thing that you hear from the left right now is oh, police don't support. this the reason police don't support this is because they're afraid that local politicians are going to continue to violate the federal law and that means they're going to lose these block grants. these federal block grants in order to do their job. but if their politicians start enforcing the law and start, you know, changing the sanctuary cities, then they would be delighted with that because exactly what you are talking about. it means that you are enforcing laws. >> bill: charlie, the suggestion on all of this is that money talks. >> yeah. >> bill: doesn't it for everyone? >> chicago has so many problems right now. losing these streams of federal funding, that has got to be a wake-up call. and we have already seen it in some places. i can't remember the locates. some places where mayors are saying forget this we are going to start enforcing the
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law. >> bill: seen okay to to not comply with the law. that's what ice said: on the campaign trail the president said this about kate's law. >> on my first day in office, i am also going to ask congress to pass kate's law to ensure that criminal aliens convicted of illegal reentry receive strong, mandatory minimum sentences. strong. [cheers] >> and then we get them out. >> bill: about two months and a week before the vote. >> i think that had -- that issue had more to do with him winning than any other issue. >> bill: really? >> absolutely. because it cuts across -- it's so sensible. and what we're talking about, you know, he ran into a buzz saw. granted a lot of times he said things in kind of rough language but he ran into a buzz saw. everybody called him racist. said he hated all these people. and all he was talking about doing was enforcing the law.
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and regular americans, i think, heard that. and in this particular case, you know, these families when you see these events, it's amazing. i can't think of another issue where a politician connects so personally with voters on something as we have seen with these families. >> bill: bringing families to the white house. >> it's like they are going to name their first born after him. that kind of level of connection. all is he talking about doing something very simple but something republicans and democrats are balked at on the hill. >> bill: if that's the case do both of these bills pass? >> i think they do. but i'm not holding my breath until i see it. >> bill: okay. >> this place has a way of screwing things up. >> bill: you know that thank you charlie hurt here in d.c. in a moment more on this and next hour white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders. deputy press secretary live at 10:30 a.m. eastern time. we will talk to a lot more to her about this and a lot more with shannon when she
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sits down with us in washington. >> shannon: looking forward to it trump administration rolling out new measures to fight terror. >> make no mistake, our enemies are working constantly for finding new mets for disguising explosives, and aircraft. >> shannon: security about to get tougher. how homeland committee chairman michael mac call tells us why. >> bill: former doing nothing to stop russian interference. republican lawmakers are demanding answers as well. mike huckabee is on that today. we will talk to him live about that and more in a moment. >> shannon: this. do republicans need to change the message when it comes to selling their healthcare plan? former house speaker newt gingrich says president trump's pitch needs a new translator. he is going to join us live to explain. >> you get the impression that he doesn't know what's in the bill. he says it's going to be a terrific bill. but he needs to go on television to make a case
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affirm the case otherwise what you are getting is preemptive know stall gentleman for obamacare.
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♪ >> shannon: iraqi forces are making gains in the fight against isis now working through the remaining neighborhoods in mosul controlled by isis fighters. their game came too late for the mosque. it was blown up last week and that coalition troops are avoiding the area for fears that the ruins of the
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mosque may be rigged with explosives. ♪ >> terrorists want to bring down aircraft instill fear, disrupt economies and undermine our way of life. it works. which is why they still see aviation as the crown jewel target in their world. >> bill: that was homeland security secretary john kelly making the case for a ramped up security measure for passengers coming into the country. this as the t.s.a. rules out tougher screening measures for foreign flights arriving in the u.s. that will go in effect later tonight. texas congressman mike mccaul chairman of the house homeland security committee here on all of this. good morning to you. nice to see you in person. >> good morning. >> bill: what does the viewing audience need to understand about what is happening now and why? >> i think that we -- they have developed one of the most sophisticated, most destructive dangerous devices i have seen to the aviation sector since 9/11. i think the secretary is taking the right precautions by having outright ban in
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the top ten last point of departure airports, highest threat into the united states. in addition, what he did yesterday was he expanded that to 280 airports that are last port of departure airports into the united states. increase security. not ban outright laptops coming on the flights. but, rather, the screening of divises, passengers, canines. if they can't come up to these standards, then they get put on the outright ban list. but i haven't seen a threat like, this bill, really to the aviation sector since the 9/11 -- >> bill: it's 16 years now. what do you think they see that scares them so much? >> they have been able to turn laptop devices into explosive devices. and so the concern is an inbound flight coming into the united states and blowing up over the skies of
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america. i can't put it more simply than that. that is a real threat. it's not some hypothetical threat. they have developed that capability. we are trying to develop technologies to screen this stuff properly to keep it off of airplanes. and i think our biggest concern is that it gets into the united states domestically. and at that point we have to reassess the response. i think it's an evolving threat. just like the shoe bomber, you know, just like what we saw sharm el-sheikh, that airline getting brought down. they have consistently tried to bring down aircraft since 9/11. it is the crown jewel. >> bill: sharm el-sheikh was. they loaded explosives near the jet engine of the plane in a soda can, correct? >> correct. >> bill: if they are able to do that on such a small device, what is their capability now and it appears to be significant. today it's a laptop, you talk about a progression.
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if today is the laptop, is it the ipad in a year? is it the smart phone a year after that? where does this end? >> well, i think they are moving towards the ipad. and i think, you know, we have to balance, you know, the traveling public versus the safety of americans traveling down into the united states. and that's a great balance. i'm going to error on the side of americans on airplanes every time. sharm el-sheikh was inside threat. that's a whole new issue. even if we have the technology to screen this, which is questionable right now, can we protect against the inside threat? we pass legislation out of my committee -- >> bill: meaning inside job. >> inside job. that's what happened in sharm el-sheikh. they are not properly vetted. they got access to the cargo hold, put a bomb on the plane and it blew up. >> bill: i raise that point because the numbers released yesterday were extraordinary. 329 passengers.
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200 commercial. 180 airlines. 280 airports and 105 countries. that is enormous job. >> it's a lot of flights. it will be ongoing work in progress to enhance security at all 280 last-point departure airports. remember, the 10 that we identified most high threat areas have an outright ban. i think the secretary made the right call. but i think to ban all incoming flights it's all threat-based. as that threat evolves, and if we get intelligence, these other airports may be threatened. we likely could put them on the ban as well. i think the last question is domestic flights. >> bill: what happens there? >> then these devices will be banned from all domestic flights. we're not at that point yet. we are concerned about these devices getting in to the united states and then getting on domestic flight inside the united states. >> bill: you raised another
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interesting point here then. do they have the capability, are there groups or individuals here in the u.s. now who have this capability? >> no. >> bill: they do not? >> that's the good news. we don't see that. if, when and if that happens, obviously the policy is going to change. and we'll have to ban these devices from domestic flights. >> bill: are we ahead of them or not? yes or no? >> we are always one step ahead. that's where we try to be. we were not there on 9/11. we saw sharm el-sheikh, the shoe bomber, they are trying to constantly target aviation. we have to stay one step ahead. >> bill: thank you for sharing what you know with us today. michael mccaul. >> i appreciate it. >> bill: we'll talk again. shannon, what's next? >> shannon: devastating twisters tearing through the heart land leaving behind a trail of diswruction. details on the storm system moving through several states. plus, the brutality of north korea inside its borders. inside look of prisons and
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were damaged after that storm. ♪ >> the threat is much more immediate now. so it's clear that we can't repeat the same approach, failed approach of the past. >> shannon: national security advisor h.r. mcmaster addressing the threat posed by north korea. later today, president trump is set to meet with the president of south korea at the white house. the meeting, likely to focus on the threat posed by the north. it all comes in the wake of that heart breaking death of otto warmbier, the college student from america, who died after spending more than a year in captivity in north korea. greg palkot was actually recently in north korea. he joins us live now from london. hi, greg. >> hi, shannon. activists are hoping the plight of the north korean people will find its way onto the agenda of the talks in washington today and tomorrow. if you have been to north korea as we have been several times, over the past several years, the geopolitical challenge of the regime is very evident.
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we witnessed parades of missiles, military, of course the leader kim jong un president also though in a showcase capital of pyongyang despite signs of economic improvement, there are signs of what the experts say the continuing oppression of the north korean people by this regime our firsthand observations and guarded brief interviews with the residents, you can't help get the sense they have little control of what they do or what they say. add to this vast political prisons, tens of thousands facing torture and forced labor. we heard about that again this week here in the u.k. from a north korean defecto defector. he said those camps are even more deadly now with the new regime. take a listen. >> many people expected that kim u.n. would do something different. what he is doing in north korea is worse than his father. so many people are disappointed and have no hope. >> as the defector explained to us as we have seen to some degree again in our time there, it can be as
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deadly now to try to flee the country as to stay inside and, yes, the death of american student otto warmbier, shannon, also hopefully focusing the mind of those talking in the white house today and tomorrow on not just the nukes, not just the missiles, but the north korean people. back to you. >> shannon: very important conversations today. all right, greg, thank you very much. >> bill: 27 past. a pregnant woman who says driver rather taking law into her own hands. while the pregnant woman behind the wheel chased down a suspect in a parking lot. whoa. also republicans calling out former president obama for not doing anything to come bass moscows medaling during the election. mike huckabee is lehr to take that on. we will talk to the governor next. >> this is russia. it's affecting the election. >> i just think obama, the president, had this perception that you couldn't
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♪ >> bill: 9:30 here in washington the ag attorney general focusing on hate crime prevention and prosecution. this is part of an executive order signed by the president back in february establishing a task force to cut crime. so we are watching this. and, you know, he may address the travel ban which goes into effect later tonight. if he does, we will bring that to you. we shall wait and see. >> shannon: well, republican lawmakers now joining president trump and demanding answers from the former obama administration. they want to know why president obama didn't do anything more to counter russian hacking during the election. a point they made repeatedly during a senate hearing on russian meddling in foreign elections. listen. >> the obama administration did not take the significant action that was needed, including forming the american people, which would have gone a long ways to countering what the russians did. >> i would dispute the
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premise that somehow president obama was in a tougher or stronger in the defense of u.s. interest as against russia. >> he stood idolly by as we heard today in the 2016 election. >> shannon: joining me now former arkansas governor mike huckabee a fox news contributor. good to see you today. >> good morning, shannon. >> shannon: i want to start out with this brand new polling out of fox news. they want to find out how the handling has been of the russian involvement in the election by president obama and now president trump. they approve 31 percent how president obama has handled it 37% poor president trump. he is getting better marks. >> that's in light of the fact that the news media has beaten the daylights out of president trump over russia over and over again. the fact is americans aren't stupid. here is what they know. they know it was barack obama who was president when all of these things were happening and it was barack obama who, in the middle of october, just weeks before the election said the russians are trying to hack it but they haven't affected one vote. they haven't had any impact
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whatsoever so all of this that the democrats have thrown at the republicans boomerang and come back to hit them square between the eyes. >> shannon: even former ambassador nic burns served in the state department under president obama during these hearings we could have done a better job. the american people had a right to know about what was going on. a piece from the "new york post" writes this the claim that obama didn't want to be seen as interferes in the campaign is laughable. more plausible is the notion he was sure clinton would win anyway and making a big deal about the hack would go undermine the legitimacy of an election the democrats thought they had in the bag. >> and that really is the essence of this. there was no screaming about russia involvement when we knew it and even when the president was talking about it. it didn't happen until after the results were in and donald trump won and hillary clinton lost. that's what makes all of this really, to use a term, fake news. there wasn't any collusion and nobody has been able to say that any one of the trump campaign was involved and talking to russia.
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and quite frankly what could they do about it? the people in power were the obama people. and they basically looked the other way. in september of last year, obama said i told putin cut it out. now, that's really a worthy threat. that had some real power. >> shannon: well, apparently, he didn't cut it out as we are finding out. >> no. >> shannon: more and more by the day. interestingly in that time frame i believe it was in september two top democrats one from the house and the senate were so frustrated in their attempts to get the administration to tell the american people what was going on that they went public themselves adam schiff on the house side and dianne feinstein in the senate and said why aren't you doing more? we think people need to know. >> it's a great question. what makes all of this so powerful is the democrats themselves are on camera. they are the ones who are saying. this all before the election. before the election they were very concerned that something might be happening. but, after the election, then they believed that it was donald trump. again, it's a false narrative. i think more and more there
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is going to be an investigation and the democrats will roux the day when they asked for one, demanded it and when the results come back they will say oh, what have we done? >> shannon: another part of this "new york post" piece said it was only after clinton lost and she and her supporters started searching for excuses that russia's actions important factor in the outcome. >> no evidence, zero, this is what president obama said back in october, no evidence that there was even the ability ever to the russians to impact a vote or hack the election machines. that would have been a real serious issue. look, shannon, i want to be very clear. it's serious if the russians are trying to somehow influence elections even if it's with fake news. i don't want us to be naive and kid ourselves. do you not think the u.s. intelligence agencies are trying to get involved in the elections of foreign governments all over the world? if we don't think they are, then either we are incredibly short-sighted and naive or our agencies are
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incredibly ineffective. >> shannon: something tells me they are up to all kinds of things we don't know about. >> yes. >> shannon: we need them on that wall to quote a movie. this is all playing out. we have heard testimony now and heard from a number of people within the fbi saying they tried to work with the dnc to say let us come investigate or help you out with what we think is a hack or some kind of compromising of your records and them saying that they weren't getting the response. they were calling people, leaving messages. they reached out multiple times. the dnc has responded to that in some ways that many people remain unconvinced? >> i think, look, if you are the dnc and there is some stuff there that you don't want anyone seeing. the last people on earth you want to come in and take a look at it is the fbi. totally innocent person says sure, officer, search my car i don't have anything in here. the person who says no, sir, you get a warrant you can't touch, don't even open the door. why? why is that? is it just because they're protecting their rights? probably there may be something in that car they don't want the officer to see. that's my guess.
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>> shannon: all know i do say as a lawyer i always toll people if they ask to search your car and they don't have probable cause you tell them know. there is more why the cooperative. a lot of these folks may come to regret there has been an investigation and maybe devil more further than they had expected. >> that investigation is going to be hands largely in the republicanly controlled house and senate committees. before if they thought it was all going to be their team that got to set the questions, sure, they were all in it. but the more the facts come out, the less evidence even exists remote level that donald trump and/or his associates had a thing to do with russia and for all the falk talk about russia, russia, russia, which by the way the average american doesn't care about because they're concerned about their paychecks and pensions. for all of that, i think it's the democrats that have far more to worry about. because they were the ones in power when the so-called hacking took place and it was their respondsability under the obama administration to do something about it and they
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clearly did not. >> shannon: you predict maybe we will hear less about russia. >> probably less. >> shannon: all right, governor. good to see you. >> thanks, shannon. good to see you. >> shannon: bill? >> bill: thank you. western wildfires forcing thousands from their homes in western arizona. fires burning more than 20,000 acres north of phoenix. there is concern that windy conditions could make matters even worse. claudia cowan is on that from the west coast. claudia, how bad is it so far? >> well, bill, good morning. that's right. strong shifting winds and triple digit heat adding to the challenge on most of these western wildfires. you mentioned arizona, a state of emergency has been declared in arizona where flames are burning and steve rugged terrain sixth day about 100 miles north of phoenix. goodwin fire has scorched 32 square miles. that's an area larger than the entire state of maine. governor of arizona plans to tour this area today. unclear how many homes have been lost. but it's forced thousands of people to grab what they can and get out.
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>> we packed whatever we could, put it in the van and left. we know the important stuff. but when you look around it's all important. it's your whole life in there what do you take? >> don't have time to get a u-haul and pack everything. you have to take pictures and whatever is important to you. >> at least 13 homes have been reduced to ash in utah. the fire is now 58,000 acres. just 15% contained. some 170 1700 firefighters here will get a break today calmer winds and cooler temperatures. they hope to lift some evacuations by tomorrow. it was a pretty scary wednesday afternoon in burbank, a suburb of los angeles as flames raced down a canyon and came right up to a number of homes. quick work by fire crews saved them all. a fire that started last night neither camp pendleton marine base has now grown to 700 acres. other fires burning in washington and idaho. many of them sparked by
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lightning. minor injuries reported as well, bill, mostly related to the heat. back to you. >> bill: claudia cowan east coast bureau. shannon, what's next? >> shannon: video of a gunman caught up in deadly shootout with police. the dramatic images and the back story on that next. plus, republicans trying to sell their healthcare plan making the case simply that well, obamacare has got to be replaced. is that a good enough message? is it getting through? newt gingrich has a few ideas of his own. but, first, dr. krauthammer. >> what the republicans, particularly the president, does not seem to understand is that making the case that obamacare is dead is not working.
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we stopped counting here at fox after numbe after number 32. we haven't heard one from trump. > >> bill: so there is the good doctor last night telling republicans their message for selling healthcare idea is not connecting with voter. that's the case he makes. meanwhile president trump's sales pitch also coming under scrutiny. my next guest says that the president needs a translator. his word. former house speaker newt gingrich often the "new york times" number one best seller "understanding trump"
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also fox news contributor. nice to see new person, mr. speaker. good day to you. >> good to be here. >> bill: translator? >> not just the president, the whole party needs a translator. one example i asked an audience the other day how much do you think the house republican party bill cuts medicaid over 10 years? penal said 20%. 30%. 50%. i said well, how would you feel it went up 20% over 10 years? actually they spent 20% more in the tenth year than the first year? because only in washington does a 20% increase count as a cut and that's because the congressional budget office is a left wing institutes that ought to be abolished. to the best of my knowledge, almost no republican has walked around and said hey, we actually increase medicaid spending. >> bill: let me show what our poll found yesterday. >> okay. >> bill: on this very point you are making on the idea to replace only 27% favor. now, i saw that and i said we really don't know what it is just yet. >> right. >> bill: that's the point you are making. then it goes back to communication.
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is that the president's job? is that congress' job? >> it's everyone's job. every single member who is going to go home for the fourth of july in the house and the senate ought to have a set of positive talking points. they ought to talk about what they are going to do in a positive way, how they are going to lower premiums, how they are going to bring back the insurance companies to places that don't have any choices anymore. i think there are thousand counties with no choice. because obamacare has crushed the marketplace so decisively. they need to talk about how you can use, for example, high risk poll pools so everyone is covered. you don't have to have obama style centralized bureaucratic system that is groskly expensive which is the other thing. we are the party that wants to get to a balanced budget. the democrats are the party that wants to spend everything they can find. so by definition they are going to promise more than we are. when we need to have the courage to say that. >> bill: i would argue that they actually do say that and they say it often. but whether or not it breaks through and it's heard is another matter. krauthammer is making the case that you need to make a
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speech. that hasn't happened and president obama, he said he found 32 cases where he talked about this. >> this is a totally different environment. when they get to conference, they are now going to be talking about the final bill. at that point the president should make a speech. the truth is he didn't know what the congress could pass. he doesn't know, as mitch mcconnell doesn't know, what the senate could pass. they are going to bring two very different bills into conference and that's the point where the president needs to start weighing in and outlining this is where we need to go and this is what we need to do this i long legislative process. it took reagan until august to pass tax cuts and we were giving money away. this is a complicated process. >> bill: explain this, too. another poll that we put out last night around 6:00 on how people feel about obamacare now. it was at 50% in march. it's at 52% favorability
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now. doesn't that show the challenge in trying to pull back an entitlement? >> yes. absolutely. i mean, the democrats have brilliantly figured out if i give you everything, and i can't pay for any of it, if i give you everything and then the republicans come along and they want to give you less than that, can i scream at them. and you are going to feel oh my god, you are taking something away from me. on the other hand, i think if you go out and say to people and this is, again, where the failure of communication, have you states where there are 42% increases, 60% increases. one state has 116% increase in premiums, and we're not driving that home. this is an unsustainable system where people actually are losing real coverage. i mean, if you have to buy an expensive obamacare insurance and has a $6,000 deductible, the very people he was trying to help don't have $6,000. >> bill: i don't know if it's the medicare matter or if it's the obamacare regulations. you can tell i'm leaving
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through papers here. i don't know if it's planned parenthood issue. i don't know if it's the intisments o more money for opioid abuse for ohio. how does mitch mcconnell thread it. >> i think he will thread it he has been very effective as the leader of the republican party in the senate. i don't think there would be a majority today without his leadership and his aggressiveness in the campaigns and in putting together that majority. and i think that he thought they were further down the road than they were. they had one out of every four senators on the republican side meeting. the other three said wait a second i'm not in the room. part of this was transactional. members not going to before the fourth of july. they decided they weren't in the room. they didn't have a chance to look at it, and they want to be part of the mix. there are a number of modifications that can be made that will improve the bill. and my hope is that mitch is going to listen to everybody, find a way to get an improved version, and
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then take it to the floor before the end of july and prepare for a september conference with the house. >> bill: a year and a half on welfare reform. >> yeah: legislative process is really hard. by design. the founding fathers wanted to protect us from dictators. >> bill: i get it they were afraid of power. thank you, mr. speaker. >> great to see you. >> bill: good to see you. congratulations on the book. sarah huckabee sanders joins us in the next hour and a lot of things here. 10:30 eastern time. hope you stick around for that slap none back to you in new york. >> shannon: getting word of sex abuse allegations hitting the vatican. why a top final is heading home to defend himself. >> get out of the way. >> shannon: why a pregnant woman got behind the wheel as you can see there, she took the law into her own hands. >> i come back out here and he was with my purse and took off. i took off after him.
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>> bill: bit a crazy scene outside of a wal-mart in north carolina. so that is a pregnant woman chasing down a man she says stole her purse and then hits him with her suv. someone caught it all on video. >> get out of the way. >> she says she could not let him get away. wow. >> i come back out here, and he was with my purse and took off. i took off after him. me being five months pregnant i chased a little ways and come back. jumped in the car and thrown it in gear and toledo it across the cush and running him over. i was not letting him get away with it it's not right. it's not fair. >> bill: he is charged with breaking. larceny and damage to property. the woman is also being
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charged with assault with a deadly weapon. north carolina. >> shannon: top advisor to pope francis now facing charges of sexual abuse in his home country of australia. the case makes cardinal george the highest ranking vatican official ever to be charged in the church's long running sex abuse scandal. benjamin hall is live from london with more on this. >> good morning, shannon. the cardinal is the third most important man in the catholic church. is he head of the vatican's finance department. he was appointed by pope francis as one of his major advisors. this is a huge blow to the catholic church at a time when they were hoping to move on from these historic sexual abuse allegations. today cardinal pell took a leave of absence to fight the multiple criminal charges in his native australia that allege he committed sexual assault in the 1970s. police in the australia state of victoria said the case involved multiple complainants.
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he had also take a traditional stance on same sex marriage and contraception. today he claimed he was innocent. >> there has been relentless character assassination, relentless character assassination. and for more than a month claims that a decision on whether to lay charges was imminent. i'm looking forward, finally, to having my day in court. >> what makes this worse is that cardinal pell in fact oversaw sexual allegations alles in australia for the church. this is yet another crisis in the catholic church when they were hoping to move on from the last ones. shannon? >> shannon: benjamin hall live for news london. >> bill: here in washington critical day ahead. action on illegal immigration and allegations on the republican healthcare bill all live from capitol hill. what we're learning about all that today. also deputy white house press secretary sarah
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>> shannon: hot button issues popping today on capitol hill. immigration and healthcare front and center. as lawmakers push to enact president trump's agenda, few road blocks in the way. we will see how they handle them. welcome to a brand new hour of america's newsroom. from new york i'm shannon bream. >> bill: hi shannon. we have switched cities. i'm bill hemmer live in washington today. the house voting on a pair of immigration bills today. one that puts fresh air on sanctuary cities. the other kate's law. bruceing penalties for deported felons and all that while president trump's travel ban goes into effect later tonight. >> shannon: chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live on the hill covering everything healthcare. we begin with peter doocy. today's immigration action live on capitol hill. all right, peter, who are house republicans trying to send a message to today? >> to local governments,
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shannon. and their message is that federal money will stop coming if sanctuary cities do not start enforcing immigration law. >> i think the issue is each local law enforcement has their own unique situations to deal with they are not figuring out which other laws they are going to avoid. not figuring out which ones to pay attention to. determine basically political basis dealing with constituents we're not going to enforce immigration because we have a problem with the way it's being handled. >> if anybody is following immigration laws right now, the attorney general jeff sessions says it's criminal. here's part of a statement from him last night. he says violent transnational gangs like ms-13 take advantage of these policies in order to smuggle in drugs recruit new members from our schools and pillage and plunder our communities. closing these loopholes in our laws must be a priority if we are to make america safe from these dangerous transnational organizations. and, of course, the other bill being considered today known as kate's law does lay
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out harsher penalties for convicted criminal aliens who come here illegally, do a lot of illegal things, and then keep trying to come back. shannon? >> shannon: i talked to a number of lawmakers whether they think democrats will get on board to vote with some these things. there has been a skepticism there. so what is their argument? the democrats against these laws? >> they basically think that they apply to too many people, including folks who come here illegally but then live by the rule of law once they are here. >> well, talking about kate's law, i mean, obviously a young woman who was murdered and is horrible. there is no excuse for that. and our heart goes out to her family, you know, it's just a horrible thing. it shouldn't have happened. this bill, however, targets all immigrants, a lot of them who have just come illegally here. they come to work or reunify with their families and then we treat them as hardened criminals. >> so it doesn't sound like there is going to be a lot of democratic support today for these measures in the
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house. if they do pass, they will go over to the senate where they will need 60 votes and as we have seen recently with everything the senate has tried to do getting 60 votes is pretty tough. shannon? >> shannon: yes, it is peter doocy though monitoring it on the hill. good to see you this morning. >> bill: another fox news alert. we are learning about some the inside dealing and inside arguments now at times between senate republicans on healthcare. this as concerns grow that the party's window for repealing and replacing obamacare is closing. mike emanuel has that story live on the hill and what are you hearing this morning already, mike? >> well, bill, it sounds pretty pessimistic. they are still trying but feeling like there is a lot of negotiation ahead. one example to highlight that is fox news has confirmed majority leader mitch mcconnell and ohio senator rob portman got into a heated argument this week over medicaid. that is striking because the two are typically close allies and any calculation sources have made to get to 50 votes to pass a bill would have to include
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portman. mcconnell continues urging his colleagues it is time for action. >> we know that we cannot afford to delay on this issue. we have to get this done for the american people. that's the sentiment widely shared in our conference and i think i speak for everyone in acknowledging, once again, that the obamacare status quo is unacceptable and that it simply cannot continue. >> senate g.o.p. sources say the most likely no votes on healthcare reform are three people, susan collins of maine. dean heller of nevada, rand paul of kentucky. the problem for leadership is they can only afford two republican nos and still pass a bill. >> i still sense that we're at impasse and i said that yesterday at lunch with our republican caucus and everybody kind of laughed because, yeah, there is still quite a bit of disagreement. and there is basically two factions. >> at this point, i am hearing that senators are due to leave town for the
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holiday recess later today. bill? >> bill: are democrats hopeful of turning the page on this republican-led effort? what are they saying, mike? >> they certainly are bill. you have the senate's top democrat essentially calling on president trump saying let's get all 100 senators around the table and talk about your healthcare priorities. >> it would focus about what you, mr. president, have talked about in your campaign. lower costs, better healthcare, covering everybody. not on tax cuts for the rich, not on slashing medicaid. >> one top g.o.p. senator told me that he took three steps forward on healthcare reform on tuesday, two steps back yesterday. today we'll see. bill? >> bill: we shall, indeed. thank you, mike emanuel there on the hill. shannon? >> shannon: for more on this let's bring in fox news politics editor chris stirewalt here in person. the d.c. people are here. >> bill: i have to come up in new york to see you here now. >> shannon: you heard my
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reporting there. and you know, he talked about the fact that there was a heated argument between senator portman and mitch mcconnell. [laughter] >> shannon: i would love to see what a version of raised voice. >> only slightly. >> shannon: it was about medicaid. there are so many different competing interests with some different people. and when can you only lose two, can mcconnell get this done? >> i don't know whether you heard rand paul last night talking to martha, but basically his idea was split it into two. you have one and then you have the other. now, i don't think it's going to work out the way he wants it because he has a vision in which conservatives get their way on one bill and liberals get their way on another bill. it's not going to work out that way. the idea of shortening the horizon, shrinking down what the aspirations of this legislation are remember, mcconnell has said one day. one day more. they have to come back with an answer tomorrow. really what we're talking about more is how to bail out obamacare because, as the republicans have been talking about for months and months and months, insushiers are leaving, premiums are going up, rates are going up, ba ba ba ba
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ba, the president has been talking about it add infinitum. need answers on this. 20 million americans lose coverage or see giant increases in their premiums. >> shannon: the question is then, and we keep talking about that, is it better to let that happen and prove to america as obamacare is terrible and now we will rescue you. >> oh, no. >> shannon: do you fight to put together something say not a real repeal that's not what you promised it we don't like it? >> real repeal left the building in april. >> shannon: if not before. >> if we think back, it was march 6th, i think, that paul ryan first plan came out and we said we will fake repeal and fake replace, later we are going to. >> shannon: i don't think he used those exact words. >> he didn't sake fake repeal and fake replace but the sentiment was there take the tax cuts now. take the things out now that we like and three years from now we will do the hard part. the senate is back with that part. i think what you may see is that on the back end, the part about cuts to medicaid,
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cuts to other things and we should point out that these are decreases to the increases. >> shannon: right. i mean, there is still increase in medicaid. >> decreases to the increases. there is less of more. but, those things might be left aside so they can focus on what to do and it's going to cost 7 or $8 billion to prop up obamacare for a year. >> shannon: money comes from somewhere. probably from us paying taxes. >> or printing it. >> shannon: or printing. those are two options. so this morning senator manchin the lovable democrat from west virginia. >> move jo. he says he is talking to republicans and been talking to senators collins and heller and others about how democrats can get involved. he says let us in the room we want to help you. collins saying no big fan of the president or of this bill, essentially at this point, she says we should bring in some democrats and if we don't get something done now, that's going to have to be the next path and it's not going to be as good for these conservatives who don't like what we are giving them now. >> and this is exactly, manchin is making mitch mcconnell's point for him.
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mitch mcconnell says to these republicans and conservatives to rand paul and others, thee recalcitrant conservatives okay, fine, you want it your way, you want to shoot the moon, you want more repeal, more replace, more of, this more of that great, we have to have a fix for obamacare by november. basically october. when you think about it because that's when the insurance companies write their rate books. that's whether that stuff comes out. they have got to get it done. whatever anybody said about blaming democrats for obamacare crashing, da'da da'da da, that's not going to happen. bowers the republicans are in control of both houses of congress and the presidency. and if 20 million people see their insurance either go kablooie or their rates go up they will blame them. >> shannon: despite that set up and seven years of promises you say nothing like a repeal actually happening. >> they should have packed a lunch. >> shannon: you are going to need a snickers i believe is the commercial. all right chris stirewalt good to see you. >> bill: county president help push through a deal now
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as the deputy white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders about that and all more coming up in minutes. and, is there a military option on the table for dealing with north korea? tough talk from the national security advisor just this week. >> the threat is much more immediate now. and so it's clear that we can't repeat the same approach, failed approach of the past.
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♪ >> the threat is much more immediate now. and so it's clear that we can't repeat the same approach, failed approach of the past. so the president has directed us to not do that. and to prepare a range of options, including a military option, which nobody wants to take, right? >> shannon: national security advisor h.r. mcmaster on the threat from north korea. the president of south korea is expected at the white house today where the north, of course, will be the hot topic. south korea's leader has vowed to stand with mr. trump against north korea. let's talk about it john bolton the former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and fox news contributor. good morning, ambassador. >> good morning. glad to be with you. >> shannon: okay. so this south korea president moon is newly elected and parted of his campaign was about reopening conversation and maybe a softer tone with the north koreans. it seems like immediately that's been rebuffed. we have had missile launches and tests. how do you think he is going to want to handle this now when he sits down with president trump? >> well, perhaps he has seen
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the north koreans in action from a decision-making position of his owns a the new president. it may have woken limb up a little bit. i have to say i'm concerned his ideological predisposition is towards what was once called the sunshine policy saying that sweet reason will prevail with north korea. one of his -- one of president's moon recent's suggestions was let's have a joint north and south korean olympic team which is very interesting. doesn't have anything to do with nuclear weapons. so, i think it's going to be a tough discussion with president trump. i think the president -- our president has some pretty definite ideas about the north korean threat and this will be a very important meeting. >> shannon: , one of the things that immediately captures the conversation is this sad antimissile defense system that was set to go into south korea. my understanding is president moon and those in his administration want to see environmental study before they allow that to move forward. the u.s. had been counting on it being there and thought it was good for all parties involved other than north korea.
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>> well, there is some question whether president moon was fully informed as to what was going on. my sense is this is going to get smoothed over. it's very hard to argue that an antimissile system somehow is provocative. it's purely defensive weapon system. designed to protect american forces and also south korean civilians. i think they will get past that. the bigger question is how do you deal with north korea? president moon seems to want to continue the path of 25 years of a conversation of persuasion through negotiation and coercion through sanction. that's failed for 25 years. there is every reason to think it will continue to fail and obviously something else is necessary. >> shannon: also a big part of this equation is china, of course. now they are pushing for the u.s. to have talks with north korea. i don't think anyone in this administration is willing to engage in that. at least not now. >> china has been jiving us for 25 years on north korea. let's be honest. they pretend to put pressure on until our short attention
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span leads to us look away. they say they don't want north korea to have nuclear weapons. if they were serious, there would be ways to deal with this. i think the only long-term solution if the chinese really are serious is to reunify the peninsula. i think president trump has seen president xi of china said he would put pressure on the north. they turned away a couple of coal ships. that was not big deal. i think the relationship has been restored and north korea continues to engage in provocative and unacceptable behavior. >> shannon: what is our next move with china and will part of this conversation with the south korean president at the white house today building a north kore alle with china. >> put together in place we had under the last south korean administration. look, if you really believe that more conversation with north korea is going to slow down their nuclear program, then it's like back to the future. i mean, we have done this over and over again. and it has failed. i think, as i say, there is
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only one diplomatic option left, which is the refox business network unification option which the chinese might not accept. that's why a military option has to be very carefully thought through. >> shannon: what do you make of that we now have the national security advisor publicly saying it is on the table? >> well, maybe it will wake some people up. i think, look, the job of a president of the united states is to protect innocent american civilians. in the hands of the regime and north korea, not rationale by our standards. the ability to drop nuclear weapons on american cities is a weapon of terror. we don't have an adequate national missile defense thanks to the obama administration. and that's why looking at some kind of military action against the north's program has to be as part of our range of options. known believes it's -- nobody bs it's attractive. >> shannon: you make a good point. we wait for that meeting today at the white house. ambassador, thank you, sir. >> thank you, shannon.
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>> bill: shannon, we are waiting for word from the white house after president trump promise a big surprise on healthcare. deputy white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders is our guest in a moment to talk about what g.o.p. leaders face in that tough deadline. also, the department of homeland security ramping up airport security for those who want to travel here to the u.s. this is part of the travel ban. takes effect today. next. >> unless we all raise our security standards, terrorists, who seek commercial aviation as the greatest takedown will find and attack the weakest link.
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and air gas protesters blocking roads yesterday. several protesters fought back and threw rocks at the officers. at least seven people were arrested. the protesters say they were rallying against poverty and inequality in argentina. >> bill: back here at home now parts of the president's travel ban go in effect today. just four days after the supreme court allowed part of that ban to stand. how will the rollout work? remember this is temporary. it effects those traveling from six mainly muslim countries. doug mckelway live at dulles international airport to tell us how it is going to go. doug, good morning there. >> good morning, bill. there is no sign of the confusion or chaos that we saw here at dulles international airport with the initial travel ban. there is not even any sign of immigration lawyers who are present who offer assistance to those who were detained during the initial ban. that is larr n. large part to the fact that the administration imposed a 72-hour delay before the implementation. this ban officially takes effect at 8:00 p.m. tonight.
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in addition to that the state department has now sent specific guidelines to embassies and consulates on how to interpret what the supreme court met by a bonafide relationship on who can enter from six designated. must have a parent, a child, son or daughter-in-law or sibling who is already in the united states before they can enter. also allowed entry are those who have already had visas before the travel ban, as well as business, student and journalist visa applicants who have proper documentation. another sign that things are going very smoothly at this juncture, the associated press reports that the middle east biggest airline emirates airline reports all flights are operating normally as new travel guidelines come into effect. this is all part of a one-two punch by the trump administration. just last night secretary of homeland security john kelly announced new enhanced screening of laptops and portable electronic devices. what this policy entails is
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increased use of canine teams at airports abroad and for airlines abroad, increase use of explosive trace detection kits and enhanced screening of airport personnel. who is john kelly. >> make no mistake, our enemies are constantly working to find new methods for disguising explosives, recruiting insiders and hijacking aircraft. >> now, this new policy falls short of an outright laptop ban that many airlines had feared. but john kelly says that that could be resurrected if airlines and foreign airports do not comply with these new guidelines. bill, back to you. >> bill: all right, doug. keep us posted on all that doug mckelway at dulles today. 25 past. shannon, what's up. >> shannon: promising something big on healthcare. are senate republicans close to a deal? deputy white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders is live with us in minutes. >> before this summer's out, president trump is going to work with this congress and we're going to keep a
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promise to the american people and we're going to repeal and replace obamacare. [cheers and applause]
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>> i have to tell you this will be a tremendous plan. it will really -- you're going to have a lot of very, very happy people in this country if we can get it done. so we're working very hard on healthcare. i think we have a great answer and hopefully we will have it soon. we will keep you informed. >> bill: so then there is the latest from white house from yesterday. the president promising a big surprise on healthcare. what that is, we don't know. acknowledging that getting the republican plan through the senate will not be easy. sarah huckabee sanders, deputy white house press secretary with me in the studio. nice to see you. >> great to see you, too, bill. >> bill: welcome to your adopt the town. what is the surprise. >> if i told you it wouldn't be a surprise. it would be like telling you what you are getting for christmas before christmas morning. we couldn't do that. >> bill: does the white house know something we need to know now? >> i think the big piece
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here is that the president knows this is something that has to be done. this something republicans have been talking about, campaigning on. and, frankly, it's becoming something that is just impossible to ignore. obamacare is simply collapsing around us. you have got states every day that are losing coverage, carriers pulling out. nevada is now i think 14 counties will be without coverage. that is simply unsustainable and something we can't allow to continue. i think both republicans in the house and senate know this. the president certainly recognizes it. and as we have said all along, never underestimate this president. >> bill: granted, does he believe that he needs to do more in order to push this forward? >> i think he is committed to making every effort to get this done, as well as the senate and house. this is something, again, i think universally recognized that we have to make some big changes and we have to take big and bold steps. and he is committed to doing
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that. >> bill: i know you believe failure is not an option. the campaign was built on repeal and replace. and now you're facing a moment here, sarah, where it is very difficult. >> i don't think anybody said it would be easy. >> bill: does he need to do his own campaign, perhaps, to convince lawmakers in congress and the american people that it's going to get there. >> i think that's what he is doing right now. he has been, you know, spending significant amount of time. he had all out members of the republican senators at the white house earlier this week. he is continuing to make calls, do meetings, and work with senators. as we've said, this is going to be a process, but it's one that's important that we go through. we know there needed to be some changes and that there would be through this process, through this amendment process in the senate. and that's where we are. nothing is inconsistent with what we thought would happen aas having this back and forth until we get the right -- >> bill: we will learn more today, right? >> i think. so. >> bill: what can you share with our audience that he dual in order to contribute
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to it? >> i think he will continue high level engagement like he has been. not only personally making calls, taking meetings with individual members. but, also, engaging members of his administration across the board, whether it's secretary price, the vice president, a large group of his team are spending. >> >> bill: can you say today that it will get done? >> i think we ar committed to making this happen. >> bill: is that a yes? >> i'm not in the business of guarantees but i am certainly i know the president has made this a priority. and i have never seen him commit to something like this and not push it through to completion. >> bill: topic, too, a warning went out to assad the other night about another chemical attack and apparently it did not happen. hopefully it will not happen. officials taking credit that suggest that warning prevented assad from acting. is that true. >> the intelligence showed there was a need for us to
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recognize we were aware of something could be taking place. and we saw that it didn't. so, we're very hopeful and thankful like you said that nothing happened and we hope that nothing does. >> bill: whether it's a back channel or not, can you say that assad is listening? >> i mean, i don't know how they couldn't be. i think the president has made very clear his intentions and certainly that this behavior is not acceptable. >> bill: on russia we had former diplomats at a hearing yesterday, richard burr the republican from north carolina headed up that hearing. when it came to the question of involvement in the election and whether or not vladimir putin had a hand in this, this is how the back and forth went on the question and answer. >> do you have any doubt that russian interference is driven by putin himself? start with you, ambassador burns? >> no doubt about. >> ambassador? >> the same answer, no doubt. >> no doubt.
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>> none. >> bill: is there any doubt at the white house? >> look, the president said back in january that he thought that this was probably driven by the russians. i don't think that we have been quiet or inconsistent on that fact. the bigger piece is protecting and making sure things like this don't happen again. that's where our focus is looking at how we can maintain voter integrity moving forward. it's one of the reasons we support voter i.d. laws and protecting our system across the board. >> bill: i get it on voter id law but this is moscow, and this is putin. and what are you prepared to say? >> and, bill, this is america. >> bill: what are you prepared to say. >> any time we get challenged by them, i think it's time for america to step up and say not here, not in our country. and i think that is what we are looking at is how do we put safeguards in place to make sure things like this don't happen again. >> bill: i get it. but what are you actively doing now to make sure putin doesn't do it again? >> i know the department of
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homeland security with cyber security teams are looking at the best ways to prevent this every single day. and they are dedicated and focused on nothing other than -- not just with the russians but anybody. we want to make sure that we protect ourselves and that we are not vulnerable as much as possible. and that's certain people sole job is to look at the best ways to do that. >> bill: the point being it's going to happen again. >> i think it's going to be people looking to attack americans in that forum and we have to constantly look for ways to protect ourselves, whether it's through a large number of different tactics on national security front. >> bill: there were a few tweets that went out earlier today and i want you to react to this. okay. this was a suggestion about some folks at msnbc on a morning program there. here's what he said. i heard poorly rated morning joe, referring to joe scarborough speaks badly of me. don't watch anymore.
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then how come low iq crazy micmikawith psycho joe came to mar-a-lago around new year's eve and insisted on joining me. she was bleeding badly from a face lift, i said no. what is the white house saying about why that went out? >> look, i don't think that the president's ever been someone who gets attacked and doesn't push back. there have been outrageous number of personal attacks, not just to him but to frankly everyone around him. please that personally attack me many times. this is a president who fights fire with fire and certainly will not be allowed to be bullied by liberal media or liberal elites in hollywood or anywhere else. >> bill: i get it but is that necessary? >> look, i think what's necessary is to push back against unnecessary attacks on the president both personally. i have seen far worse things
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come out of that show. again, directed not just at the president but everyone around him, personal attacks, mean, hateful attacks. again this president is not going to sit back and not push back and fight fire with fire and that's exactly. >> bill: i have heard that from you and i have heard that from him. it seems like it is entirely more personal than it needs to be. and i'm wondering if you want to address that. >> i think i have addressed that as much as i can in terms of the president. again, isn't going to be somebody who is bullied and allowed people himself and those around him to be personally attacked. >> bill: you would argue he is always going to punch back and not fire the first shot and he feels the criticism toward him is unwarranted. >> outrageous attacks that take place on that show day in, day out, not just at the president, and not against his policies, not against things that he is pushing but they are personal and not just directed at him u again, everyone around them. i have been called a lot of names on that show that don't have anything to do
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with my beliefs or ideology or policy but they are personal attacks. >> bill: is there something we need to know more about this relationship? >> not that i'm aware: i couldn't speak to anything. >> bill: there is no back story that has not become public that would lead him to choose this wording? >> i honestly wouldn't i'm not aware of any extra back side. >> bill: we are about to do a segment in a moment with the argument some former press secretary republican and democrat alike are arguing that the press briefings have become a public slow, first of all, do you think that's the case? >> i think oftentimes given that i have seen the difference between the behavior of the press corps, whether it's on cam rand off camera, the temperature, the tone definitely comes way down. i think off camera briefings tend to have a lot more substance than on camera. because it does become more about theatrics and the show and the yelling and gotcha
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questions. so i do think that there is a great point and a great part of being able to have a mix of doing both on and off camera. >> bill: suggestion the cameras will stay and will not be turned off permanently? >> i don't know that that's ever been suggested. i think since back in december sean spicer was very clear that we were going to look at a lot of different ways to get the president's message out to promote his agenda. we're doing that every day whether it's through the well over 100 million followers the president has on different platforms of semed. whether it' -- social media, org interviews like this. on camera briefings and off cameras briefings. one-on-one with reporters and the president going out and speaking to the american people. we are constantly looking for the beth ways and continue doing that. >> bill: i appreciate you being here today. >> absolutely. sarah huckabee sanders do. we get a briefing today? >> yes, sir. we will be doing a briefing
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today on camera. >> bill: on camera or with you or mr. expires. >> with me. >> bill: back to shannon. we have more on that battle between the white house and the media next. this conversation about should the white house end live tv coverage of the daily news briefings? a fair, balanced and maybe fiery debate next. >> have you ever had a cat, pet cat get one of these red laser pointers and you point it oat the floor and cat tries to catch it that's what the trump administration is doing with many in the media. so, your new n does have a few side effects. oh, like what? ♪ you're gonna have dizziness, ♪ nausea, and sweaty eyelids. ♪ and in certain cases chronic flatulence. ♪ no. ♪ sooooo gassy girl. ♪ so gassy. if you're boyz ii men, you make anything sound good. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico.
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♪ >> shannon: a pair of former white house press secretary republican ari fleischer and democrat mike mccurry both voicing support for ending live coverage of the daily white house news briefings. rush saying the white house is playing with the news media. >> ever get one of these
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cats play with red laser pointers and you point it at the floor and the cat tries to catch and it the cat runs into the sofa. point it at the wall and the cat runs. i think that's what the trump administration is doing with many in the media. >> shannon: former communications director for senator marco rubio now a partner at firehouse strategies. isaac a democratic strategist and former executive director of the pro-hillary super pac correct the record. good to see you, gentleman. >> good to see you. >> shannon: i will read this joint tweet that went out from ari fleischer and -- we support no live tweeting. better for the tv. better for the white house and the press. what do you say? >> i think this is a dangerous direction to go to. we need transparency and the trump administration has been probably the most secretive administration in our lifetimes? as we know they have cut off the public aspect to visitor logs who is coming to the white house complex and who is coming to meet with they
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have denied public disclosures to ethics watchdogs that have wanted to know which lobbyists and former lobbyists have come in to work for the trump white house and the trump administration. and i think that's a very dangerous precedent to continue to set. if they are not scared of the truth, why hide in the shadows? why not keep it live? >> shannon: my recollection of the last meeting a lot of those meetings happened at caribou coffee adoes the white house there wasn't a log. there used to be more briefings both on and off camera. that changed during the obama administration. >> absolutely right. i was a spokesman for george w. bush during the second -- during his second term during the bush administration. and we had morning gaggles that were off camera and then in the afternoon press briefings that were on camera. that way we were able to lower the temperature between the press secretary and the reporters because we were able to answer a lot of their questions and then know what they were going to ask so we had answers for them when we had it on camera. the obama administration, for reasons i don't understand at all, cancelled
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those morning gaggles, just made those afternoon briefings so much more contentious, such a bigger deal because you didn't necessarily know what the press was going to be asking you. the press didn't know what the answers were going to be going into it look, i don't think you need to have two briefings every day. i don't think every briefing needs to be on camera. certainly not every briefing needs to be on k578 are a. do you have to have a spre healthy dialogue between the press office and the media so you can have information going two ways and so that when the presser does brief the press on camera, he can effectively get the message out. >> shannon: seems like the two of you agree on that. more transparency is better. i want to read a little bit from michael good win in the "new york post" saying this in rough biblical justice media tries to destroy the president and leaving their reputation in tatters. he accuses them of publishing fake news and they respond with such blind hatred that they end up publishing fake news. that will show them. i mean, isaac, you know some of the things that have been going on this past week with respect to another network
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that has gotten caught up in some things that they have had to retract. and there have been some resignations and changes. >> i think the news media right now has allowed itself in part to be distracted which is a very smart move by the trump administration given their agenda by this war between trump and the press. and right now we are talking about whether or not there should be two briefings or one a day. whether or not the public should have access to the trump administration, which it should, instead of talking about the fact that there is a bill right now masquerading in the senate as a healthcare bill that's really just a tax cut at the expense of 22 million americans to drop them from healthcare and fund a tax cut for the wealthiest one tenth of 1% of americans. the talking about over $200,000 in annual tax cuts for the wealthest one tenth of 1%. but working people, the middle class will get $200 a year in tax cuts. we are not talking about those issues. we are not talking about russia collusion. we are talking about this. >> shannon: we have done multiple segments on
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healthcare and russia this morning. i know we are talking about that. i don't know about other people. i can't speak for other networks. the fact is if alex, people feel like this administration is closing off, not giving information, not being available, that's a legitimate concern but is that what's happening here? >> that's not the case at all. every reporter in the white house will tell you they have amazing access to this white house. let's face it, this west wing leaks like aive. and s sieve. over reporter over there has a source. what's going on often hour-by-hour basis. it's not fair to say this administration is not transparent. what this administration could do is a better job of focusing on the issues at hand. why are they at war with the press this week? because their base loves it guess what, they really need to be pushing healthcare reform this week. the polls over the last 48 hours for the senate healthcare bill are apizza aabysmal. president trump needs to be speaking every waking moment pushing the healthcare bill if he wants it to pass. that needs to be his focus
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not picking fights with cnn and other media networks. >> the least transparent in recent history. why are they making all these documents. >> shannon: that is debatable we have to leave it there we will agree transparency is a good thing. leaks really on the upswing. >> thanks, shannon. >> thank you. >> bill: john coming up next. >> jon: the republican senators in that town where you are are looking for plan b as healthcare reform efforts hit a road block. republican senator pat toomey helped write the bill. he joins us live with his ideas for a new version expected by item. also today president trump's partial travel ban goes into effect. tonight we have details and an update to a story we have been following, major cyber attack hitting more than 60 nations. turns out it was not money the hackers were after. so, what was it? that's coming up. happening now. >> bill: intriguing. jon, do you remember what life was like before the
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iphone? >> jon: i was just a talking about that with my makeup artist. >> bill: major milestone for steve jobs. take us back 10 years ago. coming up ♪ ♪
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♪ >> bill: 10 years ago steve jobs turned the tech world upside down. turned all of our lives upside down with the release of the first iphone. do you remember that? since then more than a billion have sold and they changed our lives along the way. jeff flock is on that today. he is live at the apple store in chicago. hey, jeff. >> and i pulled out my old blackberry. take a look at that remember that one, bill? we wouldn't want to get rid of that one. >> bill: sure. >> when they introduced, steve jobs introduced the
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new iphone people panned it. bloomberg said it was a major dispoimentd. somebody else said i think it was tech crunch that said that keyboard that thing you touch that's about as useful as a rotary dial phone. well, turns out maybe not so much. take a look at what steve jobs said when he introduced the phone. that was in january of 2007. the first one went on sale 10 years ago today. he said the iphone combines three products into one small light weight hand held device. a mobile phone, a wide screen ipod and the internet in your pocket. who knew? i mean, nobody -- the phones we had then just didn't do all that stuff. if you compare the old phone to the new phone, well, the new 7, lighter, thinner, should have apply to all of us, i suppose. that's the new one by the way. that's the one i have got in my hand here. that's a 7. a new iphone is coming out. they think it could be an anniversary edition of the iphone. maybe the iphone 10. i don't know. bottom line, it took an entire quarter to sell
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1 million iphones back in 2007. last quarter apple sold 50 million iphones in a quarter. i guess it worked after all. >> bill: whoa. yeah. can't live without it thank you, jeff. great stuff. jeff flock there in chicago. >> shannon: bill, i still miss my little blackberry keyboard. much easier to type on. still waiting on apple to fix that two key immigration bills and senate pushing ahead on healthcare. ♪
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>> shannon: how much would you pay for r2-d2? how about $3 million? that's what one little droid sold for at a recent auction, $2.76 million to be exact. this particular r2-d2 was used and many of the "star wars" films, but no surprisingly, have
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no information on who bought it. >> bill: close encounter with a bear, a little too close for comfort actually. >> oh my -- freaking bear, get y garage. >> bill: you wouldn't expect that. the driver started screaming, honking the horn. the local animal patrol called the behavior disturbing and unusual, now setting up a neighborhood trap to try to catch that bear. the bear is hungry. she's going where the food is. >> shannon: they get hungry, they like snacks just like we do. >> bill: they like garage doors too apparently. how are you doing back there?
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>> shannon: this is a cavernous studio here without you. i feel my voice echoing off the walls. >> bill: are you okay question mike >> shannon: i'm all right right. >> bill: thanks, "happening now" starting right now, bye-bye. >> jon: fox news alert, we are expecting a flurry of activity in the next couple of hours. key components of the travel ban go into effect tonight and with health reforms stalled now, the white house is forging ahead with other items on its agenda. good morning to you, welcome to "happening now." >> heather: they're trying to get some work done today. here is where we stand today. may be, the house is expected to move on to co-pieces of legislation. major elements of the president's travel ban go into effect tonight. senate republicans are scrambling to put together a new

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